Board Thread:Movie discussion/@comment-27724978-20160712004124/@comment-70.45.51.63-20161214070947

Collector1 wrote:

70.45.51.63 wrote: You find that fans have been asking for a rematch since 2001 ´´speculative´´ because you were way too young in 2001 to remember how big of a deal this was. I don't need to have witnessed the events first hand to known how big of a deal it was back then. I have the internet archive if I really wanted to look at those old forum posts and I have read the comments of people who did live through that Summer and that pre-JW period. A lot of flamewars and fanboyism cropped up in the fanbase, so much so that the detractors or "a few bloggers" as you would call them don't want this fight to happen out of fear of history repeating itself.

70.45.51.63 wrote: That´s why you don´t quite get it. Instead of being so hard and having so much hate for the people working on this petition, put yourself in their shoes. They wait for 14 years to correct what was established in JP3 and instead they get a symbolic nod and the icon of their series beaten yet again. Respec that not everyone was happy with that. Look, I honestly don't care that you thought a CGI dinosaur crashing through a dinosaur skeleton towards the end of a Hollywood Blockbuster wasn't pleasing to you, that's your opinion. But if you're going to act like a fanatic over something so minuscule as a scene in a movie then I can't have "respec" for that.

Also, no one is tweeting to Colin Trevorrow about this anymore. You and Dinowolf have made tweets tagging Trevorrow's Twitter account after August 2016 in Spetember, October (with a link to this very thread), and lasty November 30th. All of them are from this year and all of them are in regards to the rematch.

70.45.51.63 wrote: And as for how many fans want the rematch? Just take a look at this thread. If you still don´t believe many fans are interested, just google the topic. Heck, just read the articles we have on the facebook page of the petition, they are all of enthusiasm.

So for the millions who ask for a rematch. Do not let a few bloggers who don´t know the context of the whole thing discourage you. As of writing this, it is December 13, 2016. As of this day the official JW Facebook page is nearly 8 million likes and the official JW Twitter has 172K followers, which we can safely assume that a portion of these followers are people who like JW on FB. On this thread alone, I counted about six users with registered accounts who support the petition, the Facebook petition has 4.7K followers, and only fifty have sigined the petition, with at least some of these people beaing on this thread and/or liking the petition's Facebook page. That is a small portion of all the JP/JW fans, not the millions of people you claim. I also find it laughable that despite having 4.7 followers on Facebook and that you claim that millions think the same as you do, the petition itself only has currently 50 out of 100 votes over the course of 11 months.

Furthermore, I don't care how many people make articles and videos in support of you nor I do care to look them or read them because what you're clearing using is an Appeal to Popularity fallacy. I shouldn't have to accept an something as true on the basis of a group of people supporting an idea or that idea is popularity (which in the case of this petition doesn't seem to be the case as I've shown above).

70.45.51.63 wrote: Rude? Who was being rude, if anything it´s Collector1 the one that is being very rude. The thing is you don´t know him like I do.

He is a blogger who has shown his hatred for our petition since quite a while. He constantly claims our petition is insignificant yet feels an overwhelming need to make sure everyone knows it´s the most insignificant thing ever. Wich brings me to my next question. If our petition is as insignificant as he claims it is, they why does he feel a need to put it down so much? Why is he so worried if this petition is as pointless as he is so sure it is? I do not own an active blog unless you though the blog post I linked was by me, which it was not nor did I ever claim ownership. I don't really know too much about the blog's author. To tell you the truth, I didn't really care much about this petition, but then when I started to get a funny vibe from their most vocal supporter I decided to do some digging. The only reason I care is because you come across as fanatical towards this and I don't think the supporters on this thread know whom they are supporting.

Judging by his posts, Ernesto José suffers severely from the false consensus effect, he believes that everyone thinks the same way he does, a fact that is not true and is response to this José is in denial and thinks that anyone who disagrees with is some "internet blogger" or any other term that he feels is derogatory. The chances are slim that the goal of this petition will succeed regardless of how many sign it. The fact that Colin Trevorrow replied with what can obviously be taken as sarcasm to one of his supporters on Twitter only shows that any seriousness that Trevorrow had for the petition—if he had any at all in the first place—is now gone.

See? He claims the petition is insignificant. Yet it is clear that he feels an almost obssesive need to throw an entire army at it to put it down. If you are so sure it´s pointless why worry so much about something that will have no impact? Anyways let´s correct your perceptions you one by one:

1) If you only go by what the internet tells you you would think TLW and the Star Wars prequels are universally hated. Neither is the case, many love both. So don´t just go by a few internet secondhand accounts to think you have the universal truth in your hands.

2)History will not repeat iself because that time the icon was humilliated (what fans hated). This time it´s the icon winning, so not the same result, not the same reaction

3) You keep saying it is a miniscule scene shows that you still do not understand what bothered fans (re read this thread or the facebook page of the rematch)

4) He was tagged in 2 or 3 tweets so he had to respond. But it is not like we are spamming his account or anything like that. Because you act like we are some kind of evil fans who are out there to do harm. That is not the case. We respect Mr Trevorrow

5) You conveniently forget that not everyone knows about our petition. Even though Colin Responded to it. Not each and every one of the millions of JP fans around the world are aware of it. So you can´t say 8 million do not support it as a fact. The only way that would be possible is to ask each and every single one of them. See what you do? You twist things in order to make them look like facts but when you look at the context you argument falls apart.

6) Again google T Rex Spinosaurus rematch, I told you to do that but you reply ´´You don´t care´´. How convenient. You put a lot of passion into throwing all the dirt you can at the petition but you conciously want to ignore the other side of the story. The arguments in favor of it and the proof that it is still a big topic. What you are doing is not being objective, while accusing others of not being objective

7) Not once have we said that literaly everyone supports the rematch. We know some don´t care for it. But those who have such obssesive hatred against it are a tiny minority.

8) Interesting how you dissmiss Colin´s reply to noting our petition as not proof that he will take it seriously but you use Colin´s gif as unequivocal proof that he does not take it seriously