Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26237273-20150617140442/@comment-13531781-20150717232413

Anonimo777 wrote: D9 fan I see why the troodons would have been killed, the only evidence against that is the LEGO game, which has them in the Restricted Zone, although I do realize that it isn't canon so chances are they died. I see your point with the Brachiosaurus and that is my favorite dinosaur and it would be terrible for me to admit that they died out and was recreated even though that was most likely the case. We could debate forever as to who is the last carnivore in the park, in the end there's no real way to prove it. Remember that Elaphrosaurus would be genetically altered to what they think Elaphrosaurus looked like and Alan Grant stated that the dinosaurs were theme park monsters created to resemble what they think dinosaurs looked like at the time and I'm sure scientists would understand that as well, as it would only be exactly what they'd expect it to be, so studying it wouldn't be the ideal thing for them to do as they would learn very little from it.

The Suchomimus thing I never realized until now lol good eye! I'd think that they created the dinosaur not knowing what it is, likely thinking it was Baryonyx related. When the dinosaur was discovered, they went public. The other option is that in this universe Suchomimus was discovered by InGen recreating it and later fossil records came up. How weird would it be to create a dinosaur and not know what species it is? And another weird thing is how weird would it be to have Baryonyx, Suchomimus, and Spinosaurus, all living on Isla Sorna or Cretaceous Cruise, meeting up? I mean in a way they somewhat evolved into each other. I think it would be a weird thing to see. Sadly, Troodons are unlikely to be still on the island, but I really hope they will appear in Jurassic World 2. I'd like to see a fight between a Troodon and a Raptor, it would be great! About Brachiosaurus, there is still the possiblity they didn't die, (however I'm still sure the clones with blue strip are new clones).

Let's analyze the chance of all the dinosaurs. On Isla Nublar (1993) there were 17 prehistoric species, but only 15 were dinosaurs:


 * Tyrannosaurus (Rexy): She is still alive in 2015 and is in the park, so Tyrannosaurus is certainly one of the 8 original species.


 * Velociraptor: The Big One and her subordinates were killed in the first film. The Scarred Raptor Leader's pack was still alive (only one subordinate was killed), but was probably killed at Jurassic World building. 4 velociraptors were later recreated, so it is even more unlikely the Scarred Raptor Leader and her subordinates were still alive.


 * Dilophosaurus: They probably survived being scavengers and were still in the park, they can be seen in the Gyrosphere.


 * Brachiosaurus: Probably died because of diseases, since the new clones in Treetop Grazers had blue strip. However it is possible some Brachiosaurs from Jurassic Park were still alive and the new clones were only added to them.


 * Triceratops: Probably survived, Triceratops can be seen in Triceratops territory and Gyrosphere.


 * Gallimimus: Probably survived, Gallimimus can be seen in the Gallimimus Valley.


 * Parasaurolophus: Probably survived, Parasaurolophus can be seen in the Gallimimus Valley, Gyrosphere and Cretaceous Cruise.


 * Compsognathus: Probably survived, but it wasn't in Jurassic World. They were either killed before Jurassic World building or keep in the restricted Zone.


 * Herrerasaurus: They were shown to be killed in Jurassic Park: The Game. They weren't recreated in Jurassic World.


 * Baryonyx: Probably survived, being scavengers. Baryonyx can be seen in the Cretaceous Cruise.


 * Metriacanthosaurus: They were in Jurassic World (Cretaceous Cruise). However I'm not sure they survived. They should compete with Rexy over food, so unless they became scavengers, have an high chance to have died.


 * Proceratosaurus: Probably killed, because they couldn't compete with Rexy. They weren't recreated for Jurassic World.


 * Segisaurus: Probably killed, because they couldn't compete with Compsognathus. They weren't recreated for Jurassic World.


 * Stegosaurus: Probably survived, they can be seen in the Gyrosphere and in the Cretaceous Cruise.


 * Troodon: Probably survived, but could have been killed before Jurassic World building.

So the eight original species are: Tyrannosaurus, Dilophosaurus, Triceratops, Gallimimus, Parasaurolophus, Baryonyx, Stegosaurus and another dinosaur. This eighth dinosaur may be either Brachiosaurus or Metriacanthosaurus.

About the sixth carnivore, I think you're right, we have not enough proof to enstablish "its identity".

And I think you're right about Suchomimus, too. It is likely that when scientists got Suchomimus clones, they thought that were Baryonyx relatives. And yeah... it would be very strange (but also very interesting!!!) if Baryonyx, Suchomimus and Spinosaurus met up somewhere! So we can agree on most of those. I don't think Dilophosaurus was in the Gyrosphere because it seems to be one of those herbivore only rides and having a spitting Dilophosaur wouldn't fit and it was mentioned as a reference, although I do think that it is in the park somewhere, hopefully not the Cretaceous Cruise. And yes very odd and cool to see those guys all together.

The one thing I wonder is this: So after Wu found out about the frog DNA and that it could be used for breeding, he used other animals that aren't known to switch sex. But if we assume that all 8 of the species had been recaptured, then how do they keep them from breeding? This would be a major issue as you could very easily have an overpopulated exhibit like they Gyrosphere or Gallimimus Valley where there are no carnivores. Rexy was the only T-Rex on the island so there's no chance that she'll mate but what about the others? You can't exactly change the genes of a dinosaur while it's already fully grown. If they didn't recapture the other 7 and just got Rexy because she's the biggest T-Rex to have ever been known to have existed, then the whole debate of what dinosaurs were the first 8 would be 100% guess work.