Board Thread:Movie discussion/@comment-27724978-20160712004124/@comment-70.45.51.63-20161216092935

Collector1 wrote:

70.45.51.63 wrote: Collector1 is more or less saying that fans should not support our petition because it´s leaders are mad stalkers who are out there to do harm unaware of what they are doing and out of touch with reality. That is not the case at all. It may not be your intention, but it seems that Trevorrow has become annoyed by the tweets you send him judging by the August 4, 2016, tweet.

70.45.51.63 wrote: Yes, we did tweet to Colin Trevorrow in late 2015, multiple times but nowhere near the amount that Collector1 is implying and  we were very respectful and diplomatic towards him and no, we were not spamming his account day and night like Collector1 is saying. We never wanted Colin to feel ´´harrassed´´. We never did anything bad to him. So that´s not a valid reason to be against us. I never said you did it constantly, but the fact that Trevorrow was spammed by the petition owner with over a dozen tweets in one day begging him to include a rematch plus the fact that he tweets to Trevorrow at least once a month afterward regarding the rematch with the intention of getting him to respond, even though you've already gotten a response from him already and tout this tweet around as some kind of evidence that this petition is, it becomes apparent that you're pestering him. Also, its obvious that you have not stopped tweeting him since Late 2015. Many of the tweets I have cited originate from 2016 and José has recently tweeted to Trevorrow about the rematch two days ago.

70.45.51.63 wrote: Second, yes, all of our petition leaders are very well aware that some JP fans don´t care for our petition or the idea of a rematch. And yes, our petition leaders are also very well aware that there are a few fans who really hate the idea of a rematch with a lot of passion. So please stop saying that our petition leaders ´´Think that literally every fan wants the rematch´´. Instead, you claim that there's more supporters of the petition shows than what the evidence shows, which is pretty bad in its own right. If you don't have any proof outside of your word (which I find very faulty) I'm not going to believe it. Even if it were the case, I'm not going to support something just on the basis of it being popular.

70.45.51.63 wrote: Third, no, we do not call names or disrespect anyone who disagrees with our petition. If you choose to be indifferent to our petition, we think everyone is free to like and dislike whatever they want. None of our petition leaders have problems accepting that. On Jurassic Outpost, for every post that politely disagreed with "RexRevenge" the latter would try his hardest to convince anyone that disagreed that this petition was good for the fan base.

Apparently, people can think what they want about this petition, but if they disagree then you're going to try your hardest to convert them over to your side. You say on your FB that your supporters shouldn't be "discouraged by anyone", yet the few active supporters of this petition discourage alternate ideas to the petition. Examples of this are the replies on Outpost by "RexRevenge" and a tweet sent by someone who wanted T. rex and Spino teamup, to which Ernesto José replies "fans want a T Rex to proove [sic] it can take down a Spino by itself. Another teamup does not proove [sic] that."

70.45.51.63 wrote: Fourth, if the rematch were to happen, guys relax, it is just a less than 2 minutes long scene. It´s not like there will be a World War 3 or anything like that. Yeah internet discussion have happened and will happen regardless of wether ther is a rematch or not but it´s not like it´s a catastrophe, not to mention the reaction this time would be much different if the T Rex (everyones favorite) wins. Versus last time when it was the infamous newcomer winning. Never underestimate the immature side of the fan base, they're unpredictable. Flame wars aren't WW3, but for a forum mod they're annoying to see.

70.45.51.63 wrote: So please guys, stop saying as fact that our petition leaders are this bunch of evil mindless immature children who are not aware of things. Because that is very very far from reality, and it gives us an unfair bad look plus, it diminishes all the work we have put on our petition. Most of us are actualy normal adults with careers, jobs and personal lives, who just don´t like something that was established on the third film of our favorite childhood movies and we want them like we remembered them previous to that scene.

Thank you for understanding. If there are actually grown men with careers who feel that a part of them are missing ever since they saw a movie scene as a kid (or as you put it "A spine to the heart") then these people need to grow up. You call me obsessed when you're a grown man who has been bothered by this for literally fourteen years like its some kind of severe psychological trauma.

Ernesto José is a childish man. He literally said he was "devesatated" because he didn't see a rematch in JW. How is this not immature? He also claims that fans are "devastated" too when I have seen hardly any evidence of this except in those with a child's mentality. It seems that you have made up your mind about us but I will at least try to make it better. Most of the negative opinion you have about us is based on misconceptions and some things that are flat out not true. You seem so interested in trying to find ´´evidence´´ that we are evil intentioned people that you are only nitpicking things and twisting them to make them look worse instead of looking at the whole truth with an objective open mind.

First of all, Trevorrow posting a funny gif does is not concrete evidence that he is ´´annoyed´´ by us. He very well may have been joking around.

Second of all, he is a famous public figure on a public social media network. Hundreds if not thousands of people tweet to him on a regular basis. You know that right? But one fan can not in any way tweet to him more that once every several months according to you? Is there some kind of rule about this? You are acting like we are breaking into his house and robbing his personal stuff. We only Tweeted to him multiple times in late 2015 because (since he is a famous person) we were not sure if he would see our tweets among the hundreds others that he recieves. Again go to his twitter. Other fans tweet to him about other stuff with much more regularity but you don´t seem to mind them. On the other hand one guy has tweeted to him about the rematch 2 or 3 times in the last 4 months and according to you that is proof that he has evil intentions.

Third, You still don´t think there is proof that this has been a big issue since 2001? I told you to google T Rex Spinosaurus rematch but since you dont want to do that I will provide proof here.

http://www.jurassicworld2movie.com/news/colin-trevorrow-teases-possible-t-rex-vs-spinosaurus-re-match-in-jurassic-world-2

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/jurassic.world.2.news.t.rex.and.spinosaurus.rematch.to.happen/75482.htm

http://www.latinoshealth.com/articles/14941/20160105/jurassic-world-2-cast-toys-plot-will-bring-original-characters.htm

http://www.cinematographe.it/47752/news/jurassic-world-2-t-rex-vs-spinosauro.html

http://www.movienewsguide.com/jurassic-world-2-spoilers-possibility-rematch-t-rex-spinosaurus/139739

http://www.costaricantimes.com/jurassic-world-2-might-be-in-costa-rica/43395

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3712052

http://www.imgrum.net/media/1151897232915827378_1641813329

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U01v3kg8HLQ&t=136s

https://www.facebook.com/194141920665797/photos/a.923347141078601.1073741826.194141920665797/1048719338541380/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/194141920665797/photos/a.917207195025929.1073741825.194141920665797/1048249718588342/?type=3&theater

Those (in addition to the link for videos we posted a few post earlier) are just a few of the thousands of things you can find when you google T Rex SPinosaurus rematch

Now on to the Jurassic Outpost thread in wich you accuse Rex Revenge of forcing everyone to be on board with the petition. Not true at all again. Rex Revenge was as polite and diplomatic as possible on that thread. But, when his opinions on the matter were attacked he had to defend himself. He put his arguments for the rematch but he never said ´´everyone HAS to support us´´. See? What you are doing is twisting things to make them evidence for you agenda. Not to mention it is very unfair how you are saying Rex Revenge is wrong for not being ´´open´´ to other ideas while praising others for not being open to his idea. Double standard?

So in other words all Rex Revenge did was argue his points in favor of the rematch when he was questioned and you are making him seem like he is some kind of dictator trying to force his idea on others. Dude, we want the rematch. what exactly were you expecting us to do on that thread? Argue against the rematch?

About everyone who want the rematch, is inmature, no they are not. And those ´´flame wars´´ that you talk about on forums are nowhere near like you make them out to be. I have read JP forums since 2001 and while there have been heated discussions, forums have rules to be respectful. So they never get to be as bad as you make them out to be. You act like it´s some kind of disaster that tears apart the fanbase. No they don´t.

And finally, no our petition leaders know that they don´t have a psicological trauma but they do really dislike something about their favorite film series. Do they have to like everything otherwise it´s inmature? No. They are adults with personal lives, careers, goals, paying bills ext. Who are you to declare that they are pure inmaturity when you do not even know them personally?